User talk:Geographer

Welcome!

Hello, Geographer, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Hi, Geographer! Thanks for uploading the photo of Convict Lake. I noticed that it didn't have an image copyright tag. If you're releasing it (and other photos) under GFDL, could you add {{GFDL}} to the image description page? Thanks!! -- hike395 11:26, 14 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Same with Image:01520008.jpg. Really nice pic! -- hike395

GE Building[edit]

--Hey, I like the photo you added for the GE Building, but the time stamp needs to be taken out using Photoshop. If you'd like me to, I can easily handle it. Just let me know. --Jleon 15:47, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

--OK, there it is. I also uploaded it as a JPEG for slightly better clarity. --Jleon 12:43, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Time stamp[edit]

--Hi geographer, I'm not too familiar with the clone stamp tool you mentioned, but the way I usually do it is my using the "eye dropper" tool to match the colors surrounding the time stamp and then zooming in close and using a small paint brush to carefully cover it up. If you'd like, you can post your pictures onto my talk page and I can see what I'm able to do with them. Some are easier to work on than others. I've noticed some of the ones you have posted, like the Chrysler Building and Lincoln Center and I think they are really great, so I would defintely be willing to help you with any others. --Jleon 00:59, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I see you requested deletion of this image even though it's tagged, sourced and still used in a number of articles. Could you please tell me why you want this deleted (and use {{db|reason}} next time round)? - Mgm|(talk) June 28, 2005 08:30 (UTC)

Madrona Marsh[edit]

Thanks for the neat photos on my little article! Nice memories, too. I'd have loved to have taken a few myself but I haven't lived in the area for more than fifteen years. - Lucky 6.9 7 July 2005 06:16 (UTC)

  • I'm still in Southern California near Palm Springs. Talk about the SoCal experience! Heck, I was born in Culver City. I'm a native SoCal boy!  :^) - Lucky 6.9 7 July 2005 16:56 (UTC)

Los Angeles photo[edit]

Yo. I just reinserted the photo DowntownLosAngeles.jpg on the Los Angeles page again. Can you please explain on the Talk:Los Angeles page why you believe LosAngeles05.jpg is better? I personally prefer DowntownLosAngeles.jpg because one can actually make out the specific towers that are characteristic of the L.A. downtown skyline, as opposed to a bunch of distant blobs looming over the L.A. sprawl.

Also, please note both photos appear to be by the same photographer, Thomas Pintaric, and he has granted permission to use them to Wikipedia under the GFDL. So this is not a copyvio issue.

--Coolcaesar 01:40, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Los Angeles photo[edit]

Hello:

Besides the de-emphasis of the city's skyline, I dislike the LosAngeles05.jpg photo because it shows Los Angeles on an overcast day during the second wettest winter in recorded history. Los Angeles, as you probably know, is usually sunny and dry. Also, I am not sure if L.A.'s sprawl is really that notable a feature, since many other cities are surrounded by enormous sprawl as well (like New York City and Atlanta).

However, I agree that keeping DowntownLosAngeles.jpg on the Los Angeles page and putting LosAngeles05.jpg on the Global cities page is a reasonable compromise. Feel free to put Los Angeles05.jpg back on Global cities anytime---although if I can find a similar photo (skyline and sprawl) taken on a sunny day, I will put that there instead.

--Coolcaesar 03:43, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

L.A. Meetup Reminder[edit]

Don't forget! L.A's first Wiki meetup is TONIGHT at 7:30 at Philippe's in Downtown. Check out the meetup page for details. See you there! (If you can't make it, come to the next one! - Eric 22:03, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User page[edit]

Yes, I had your user page on my watchlist. I watch some user pages for vandalism and just so happened to see your update, so I added the cat. --Viriditas | Talk 01:30, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

HKWNB, HKCOTW, Current events[edit]

Hello fellow Hong Kong wikipedian. You might be interested to take a look at HK wikipedians' notice board, HK Collaboration of the Week and Current events in Hong Kong and Macao. Happy editing! — Instantnood 10:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Social Process[edit]

Hello! You asked what social processes I'm interested in - I'm interested a lot in transit/transportation and how that affects people's conception and use of their city and region. I'm interested in city form and the particular processes that lead to it. I'm interested in the individual ways individual people use and think of their city and how all those different conceptions add to a coherent whole. Like why do people choose to live in the particular neighborhoods they choose? What parts of the city do different people know and how far away from home do they go? What makes people comfortable or afraid in different neighborhoods? Why are some people comfortable in areas that others fear?

You also asked what I think about ethnic enclaves and social segregation in LA - I think the degree of separation between different populations is amazing. Like how Westsiders are afraid of Hollywood (and terrified of Westlake). They have no idea what the city is all about there. But the same is true for people in those neighborhoods - they never go to the Westside. People tend to have a solid idea of what Los Angeles is and what it's all about, but that conception varies sharply among different groups, and people seem to tend to associate only with members of their own group. That said, I don't see any "evil" inherent in the ethnicity-based spatial segregation that some people like to denounce. It's like gas stations - they like to be situated next to each other. It only makes sense that a new business dealing primarily in, say, Korean language would choose to locate near other Korean-language businesses. Customers looking for service in Korean go to that part of town to find it. I don't see the spatial differentiation in this respect as racism. However, the fact that minorities tend to occupy less-desirable land probably has something to do with current and past prejudices. And white-westsider fear of minority neighborhoods might be rooted in a subconcious racist fear. However - I think the different "ethnic" neighborhoods is what makes LA amazing. That's why I never want to leave.

Does this address your question? What do you think? EmergentProperty 01:34, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Coastal cities[edit]

FYI, some citie, like Long Beach, California have their own categories, and those categories are subcategories of things like category: Coastal cities in the United States. Thanks anyway! -Will Beback 08:03, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I moved medical geography to health geography. Since you created the article, I thought I'd let you know. Matt 17:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

Thanks again for contributing these informative photos. I edited Image:SanGabrielMountains.jpg in order to straighten the horizon, which was a little crooked. In the process the resolution dropped slightly. I didn't want to lose anything on the left side so I actually copied over the bottom left so the white space wouldn't show. At the same time I darkened it a little to improve the contrast. I'll edit the image page for Image:Western sangabrielmounatins.jpg and identify as much as I can, but I don't think that Strawberry is visible. Cheers, -Will Beback 06:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS: If you're interested in Strawberry Peak some of us are climbing its interesting west ridge on April 15. You are welcome to join us if you're fit and not afraid of heights. Send me an email if you want more info. A general description of the route is here:[1]. Cheers, -Will Beback 06:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I know from personal knowledge that someone died this spring, and I have read of many other deaths, due to accidents or illness. I'll find some cites. -Will Beback 06:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I might add that Tahquitz is arguably a part of San Jacinto, though few that are climbing it are headed for the summit. Accidents there add to the statistic. -Will Beback 06:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Here you go. http://www.rmru.org/missions2000s.htm. PS: Strawberry PK was awesome, but too cloudy to get a clear view of any of the surrounding peaks. I'd hoped to take pictures of the local terrain, but no such luck. Cheers, -Will Beback 08:17, 16 April 2006 (UTC) -Will Beback 08:17, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
PS: the geology of the Southern California mountains is unique and remarkable. If you've ever taken a class or have sources it'd be great to expand out coverage of Southern California geology. Regarding hiking, there's snow still in the high summits, yikes. A planned trip may have to be rescheduled, and we might do Strawberry Peak again as a lower, unofficial alternate, this Sunday. -Will Beback 09:45, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plant identifications[edit]

The Cucurbita is almost certainly C. foetidissima, the calabazilla, rather than C. palmata. C. palmata is normally found in the desert, but C. foetidissima would be common in the Puente Hills.

I'm not good with cultivated plants, and all I can tell you about this one is that it is in the Asteraceae. I suspect it's one of the South African introductions.--Curtis Clark 14:56, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Establishment of The Wikimedia Hong Kong[edit]

Categories[edit]

Hi, if an article is already in a sub-category such as "American geographers", then they should not also be in the less specific "Geographers". thanks. Martin 13:02, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

your statue of liberty picture[edit]

Hi. I just found the picture of the statue of liberty you took and uploaded. I think it's a great picture and I'd like to put it on my website. Please let me know how you want me to credit you, as it is licensed under the Creative Commons attribution license. You can email me at [email protected] [If you need to email me again, you can use Special:Emailuser/BlastOButter42; thanks] or leave a message on my talk page. Thanks a lot. Robert 08:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. My website is www.thebobmachine.i8.com. How do you want me to credit you? As "Geographer" or by your name or some other way? Thanks Robert 21:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your compliments geographer. It's always nice to see that the work we do is appreciated. AlexD 16:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Highway City[edit]

Would you happen to know anyone living in or near Highway City, California? Plinth molecular gathered 16:37, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Geography Wikiproject[edit]

I thought you might be interested in helping Wikipedia:WikiProject_Geography If so, just add your name to the page. Thanks AlexD 11:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Project Stub Sort[edit]

Hello,

Thank you for your stub submission. You may wish to note that it is preferable to use a stub template from Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types instead of using simply {{stub}}, if you can.

Thanks!--Ohms law 19:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Juglans californica[edit]

Great picture, well-framed, shows leaves well and emphasizes fruit, and from a known urban location for the species, much thanks for adding this to Wikipedia. Do you have one, also, of the full tree? In general your photos are well done for posting with the articles. Thanks. KP Botany 16:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LAPD[edit]

It looks like you might have reverted to some old version of LAPD that has many spelling mistakes [2] I'm sure that's not what you intended, but perhaps there's a more precise way of accomplishing it. Cheers, -Will Beback · · 10:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mt. Pinos Pics[edit]

Hey, I'm glad you like my pictures. The first one on top of the mountain was taken at an elevation of over 8800 feet. The second one down in Pine Mountain was taken at a elevation of about 5400 feet. Cygnus 23:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit summaries[edit]

I have noted that you often edit without an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This is considered an important guideline in Wikipedia. Even a short summary is better than no summary. An edit summary is even more important if you delete any text; otherwise, people may think you're being sneaky. Also, mentioning one change but not another one can be misleading to someone who finds the other one more important; add "and misc." to cover the other change(s). Thanks! BlankVerse 09:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia has numerous Policies and guidelines and it's hard to know them all. One of the guidelines mentioned in the Simplified Ruleset is "Decent edit summaries", which is further explained at Help:Edit summary. All that is really needed to help editors looking through their watchlists or the editors doing Recent changes patrol, however, is a very basic description. If you add a photo to the page, all you need to put in the edit summary is "+ photo". If you move a photo, add "moved photo". You can even set your user Preferences to prompt you if you leave the edit summary field blank.
If you look at your recent contributions, you can see that you have left the edit summary field blank, let the mediawiki software fill the edit summary (for image uploads), or used the default section header in most cases (If there was an edit summary, it will be in parentheses). The reason that I commented about your lack of edit summaries is that yesterday you did a bunch of fairly quick edits to articles on Southern California topics that were on my watchlist. That can look suspicious because I will sometimes see the same sort of pattern when someone is spamming SoCal articles.
I know that I've usually been pretty lazy about using the default section headers, but I'm now trying to add something more than the default. For example, if I delete some spam from the external links, my edit summary still uses the default, but I then add "- spam", so the Edit summary reads "/* External links */ - spam". BlankVerse 23:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
BTW: You've been adding some great pictures to the Wikipedia. Better still, you've been replacing some photos that I've always been disatisfied with [and had planned to replace myself as soon as I decide which digital camera I'm going to buy ;-)]. BlankVerse 11:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pico House photo[edit]

Thanks for adding the picture. I was hoping that, by creating the article and having historic photos, I would lure someone still in the LA area to submit a photo. Nice one! --Bobak 16:00, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doreen Massey[edit]

Hello there, any idea how I can report the person with the snarky comments on the talk page for Doreen Massey? He/she won't even sign...and as far as I can see, they're trying to undermine Wikipedia, which does my head in. Zigzig20s 17:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Advice requested[edit]

I've been attempting to overview and tidy up the geography cats which involve the places where people live. From the top level down to local neighbourhoods. There has been some overlapping and various mis-routings. It's been interesting looking at it all. However, there appear to be two useful ways of doing it - by region, and by size. And these can operate side by side quite usefully. The by region isn't a problem. But the by size has become difficult because User:Hmains wishes to use the term settlements to cover all sizes of communities, and has altered dictionary definitions [3] to fit his own understanding of the term - [4]. Community appears to be the term used most often to describe the places where people live, regardless of size. This is the definition of community - [5]. I did some sorting, placing the cat Human communities under Human geography. Human communities splitting into Urban geography and Rural geography. And those splitting into appropriate sized communities - cities, districts, neighbourhoods, villages, settlements, etc. Hmains has reverted much of my work, and insists on settlements being the term we should use - basing it on this decision, which was a declined proposal to rename Settlements by region to Populated places by region. What do you think? Is settlement an acceptable term for covering human communities ranging from well established cities down to refuge camps. Is Human community a viable alternative? Are there other choices (apart from populated places of course!)? I have started a discussion here and here, with the above wording, but no response as yet. Am I doing the right thing? SilkTork 19:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements)#Settlements SilkTork 11:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Washingtonia robusta.jpg[edit]

Hi,

Would it be possible to upload your image Washingtonia robusta.jpg to commons?

I need it for croatian article. --Ante Perkovic 09:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Would like to use a photo of yours in a book - need permission![edit]

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I'm trying to contact you to get your permission to use your image of Occidental College in a book to be published by my company.

If you're interested, please contact me at [email protected] and I'll explain the whole project.

Thank you!

Rbf311 15:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)Michelle[reply]

Strawberry redux[edit]

Still interested in climbing Strawberry, or climbing it again? If so, drop me an email. We might put together a climb with Wikipedians. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Geographer Classification[edit]

Hello Geographer, sorry for the quite long wait for a response I only really go on Wikipedia in the summer holiday period due to other commitments. With regards to the classification of geographers I agree with you that classifying them according to nationality and not putting them in a Geographers category is a problem, I shall see what I can do to get them all in the gegrapher catergory.

In terms of geographers being on wiikipedia, i'm not aware of any policy surrounding them as long as they meet the notability criteria there should be no problem with adding any, although, I think we should be weary about adding any geographer and only add those who are international experts. Prehaps we along with the geography wikiproject could draw up some guide-lines on the matter? AlexD 13:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Nixon helicopter pic[edit]

Hey great pic of Nixon's helicopter! I work at the library so I see it almost everyday, and I was meaning to take a pic myself, but you beat me to it! It adds a lot to the article! Best, Happyme22 03:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CA copyright law for artworks[edit]

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Notability - Places[edit]

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Nixon image[edit]

Hi Georgrapher. I removed the image of President Nixon as an infant because it is lacking a source. The article is up for GA as we speak and that photo's source or lack thereof was a reason why it failed the last GA. Until one can be provided it must be removed. Thanks, Happyme22 (talk) 21:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Celebrations for 2nd Anniversary of Wikimedia Hong Kong[edit]

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Hong Kong meetup 58[edit]

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LA-area Meetup: Saturday, November 19[edit]

National Archives Backstage Pass at the Reagan Library
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Invitation[edit]

Great American Wikinic at Pan-Pacific Park
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You're invited! FemTech Edit-a-Thon at Claremont Graduate University[edit]

October 26 - FemTech Edit-a-Thon & Roundtable - You are invited!
Everyone is invited to the first FemTech Edit-a-Thon & Roundtable at Claremont Graduate University on October 26 from 3-6 pm. The event will open with a roundtable discussion about feminism and anti-racist technology projects, followed by an edit-a-thon focusing on feminists & women in science. Experienced Wikipedians will be on hand to support new editors. We hope you can join us!

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Possibly unfree File:Mural LA Central Library.jpg[edit]

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2013 Wikinic[edit]

Great American Wikinic at Pan-Pacific Park
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Possibly unfree File:Château Rauzan-Ségla 1993.jpg[edit]

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Wikipedia Meetup[edit]

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Wikipedia Meetup[edit]

Help build the Wikipedia community in Southern California at "Come Edit Wikipedia!" presented by the West Hollywood Library on Saturday, August 31st, 2013 from 1-5pm. Drop in for some lively editing and conversation! Plus, it's a library, so there are plenty of sources. --Olegkagan (talk) — Message delivered by Hazard-Bot at 02:23, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Union Jack (Canadian newspaper) for deletion[edit]

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Possibly unfree File:Château Batailley.jpg[edit]

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Hong Kong meetup 83[edit]

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Hong Kong meetup 83[edit]

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Possibly unfree File:Yo-ho Brewing IPA 2013.jpg[edit]

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Hong Kong meetup 84[edit]

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  Date: December 13
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Possibly unfree File:HR4437.jpg[edit]

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PUF tags[edit]

Hello,

Recently, you removed tags listing a discussion at WP:PUF for two files, File:Yo-ho Brewing IPA 2013.jpg and File:HR4437.jpg. The PUF tag is not to be removed until the debate is closed. Further, I noticed that you accompanied the removal with a relicensing under CC0. The problem is that each file is argued to be a derivative work of a non-free work, so unless the original work is licensed under a free license, we cannot use the photo on Wikipedia except under WP:NFCC. Thanks, RJaguar3 | u | t 03:59, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hong Kong meetup 86[edit]

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   Hong Kong Meetup # 86
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Hong Kong meetup 87[edit]

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  Date: February 28
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Hong Kong meetup 87[edit]

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Nomination of Lacostian view for deletion[edit]

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LA edit-a-thons on May 23 and 31[edit]

LA meetups: Adrianne Wadewitz memorial edit-a-thons on May 23 and May 31

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

There are two LA edit-a-thons in memory of Adrianne Wadewitz, a prolific Wikipedia editor, in the coming weeks. Please join us May 23 at Occidental College and May 31 at the Institute of Cultural Inquiry to combat systemic bias and help further Adrianne's legacy. No experience needed! Please RSVP at the relevant page(s) if you plan to attend.

I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:35, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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L.A. events on June 21 and July 6[edit]

Upcoming L.A. events: Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon (Saturday, June 21, 12-5pm) and Wiknic (Sunday, July 6, ~9:30am-4pm)

Gallery at 356 S. Mission Rd.
Get hungry for the Wiknic!

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

The L.A. Wikipedia community has two exciting events coming up in the next few weeks: an edit-a-thon sponsored by the online magazine East of Borneo, and the fourth annual Los Angeles Wiknic!

The East of Borneo event is an edit-a-thon that aims to build a better history of art in Southern California. This next chapter of their Unforgetting L.A. series will take place on Saturday, June 21, 2014 from 12pm to 5pm at 356 S. Mission Rd. (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. For more info, see eastofborneo.org/unforgetting.

The Wiknic is a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is tentatively planned for Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Sunday, July 6, 2014 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible!

I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:59, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hong Kong meetup 89[edit]

  In the area? You're invited to
   Hong Kong Meetup # 89
  Date: June 20
  Time: 7PM
  Place: Think Cafe, Unit B, 19/F, Kyoto Plaza, 491-499 Lockhart Road, Causeway Bay
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SusanLai (talk) 01:54, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File permission problem with File:Green Flash Imperial I.P.A.jpg[edit]

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