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The full name seems a better fit in visible navbox space rather than the nickname, per the direct link and the fact that the stadium was named as a memorial. A recent Requested Move to name the article "RFK Stadium" failed, and I would point to that discussion as something to read within the scope of this one. An edit to change the visible name on this navbox to the full name of the memorial was reverted, so am bringing the topic to this page. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:01, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The page being at its full title doesn't mean we can't redirect to it using the more WP:CONCISE name, which the failed RM did not oppose. I would just link it here to RFK Stadium per WP:NOPIPE, but navboxes must use piped links for them to connect with respective pages. — Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That was the same argument used in the failed RM, with the full name remaining the title. This was a major memorial to the assassinated presidential candidate, senator, and former Attorney General, with no overriding reason to use the nickname. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:14, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That was for moving the page's title per WP:CONCISE and WP:COMMONNAME. It does not prevent wikilinking to a shorter name, especially in cases where spacing can be an issue like it is for larger navboxes. — Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:46, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a large navbox, and no need to save space. Accordingly, if adequate space is your main concern, linking and presenting the full Wikipedia-titled name (recently affirmed in a requested move discussion) in visible space seems the obvious choice between the options. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:11, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CONCISE clearly states "The goal of concision is to balance brevity with sufficient information to identify the topic to a person familiar with the general subject area." If the DC government prefer RFK Stadium as its common name, then it should be fine here. Spacing is just a secondary concern. — Dissident93 ^(talk) 15:18, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're using the same arguments you used at the Requested move which didn't move the formal name to the nickname. In this day of naming stadiums after advertisers, and with general knowledge of 1960s American history likely decreasing, I'd think many readers would be unfamiliar with the origin of the name 'RFK Stadium'. Rather than a memorial best described by its full name, as Wikipedia has chosen to do, a reader might assume 'RFK' stands for a corporate recipient of a stadiums naming rights. Since we are going around in circles, and since the full name of the page was recently chosen by consensus to be the title of the stadium's encyclopedic article, I'll again visible space it on the navbox as the discussion continues. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:13, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]