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Nomination of Bridge rail for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bridge rail is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bridge rail until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Rolls-Royce C Range Diesels

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Hi Andy

You may remember some years ago (2015?) we had a conversation about the correct title for Rolls-Royce C type diesels - "Range" or "Series". I did mange to find a photo on the www of an RR engine makes plate. This shows that they are "C Range". You can find the photo on the following page: https://www.trms.org.au/rm_engine_frame.htm

Regards Bruce

A tag has been placed on Internally riffled boiler tubes requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a recently created redirect from an implausible typo or misnomer, or other unlikely search term.

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

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Hello Andy Dingley,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

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Hello Andy Dingley,

New Page Review queue December 2022
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The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

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Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

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Hello Andy Dingley,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

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Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

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Happy First Edit Day!

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Hey, Andy Dingley. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:45, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mortal Causes

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Hi Andy, I've been doing some editing around Ian Rankin's books, including the Mortal Causes page, and I'm trying to add enough citations to take down the single-source template there. But some of your more anecdotal additions (the joke, etc), though really interesting, seem unverifiable. Do you happen to have links to where you found this info? I know Rankin has done various radio interviews, etc. but so far I'm struggling to find anything. Any help on this would be very much appreciated. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 09:48, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Nope, that's classic OR, which is why I tagged it as needing citations. I didn't write any of the squid joke stuff. I think you'd have to find someone who knows more Rankin than I do (I'm not a fan) and follows his own blogging / talks at signings etc. The text change is trivial, but follows what I can best source as the most common phrasing of the joke. (Google text matching counts are seen as gold-standard evidence on WP, just ask DickLyon!)
The revolver stuff I would see as "sky is blue" territory. The model identification is in the book, and the rest is self-evident to those skilled in the arts, and covered by the source I added. This is one of the reasons I don't rate the Rebus novels highly: Rankin writes a very good Edinburgh, but Rebus seems like a careless copper and not at all a credible soldier. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:00, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Recent changes made

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Hi Andy! You recently made some noteworthy edits on Tendai M. Shaba, some changes have been made! You may kindly review it. Regards Paxromana69 (talk) 09:19, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look. Thanks for doing this, it's good to get some biography articles here that aren't just white western men. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:29, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Andy Dingley: And thank for your suggestions. Edits have been made, you may now review Tendai M. Shaba :-) Paxromana69 (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Our generation scans

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Hi Andy! I'm a student writing a paper on the Battersea power station and saw you own the book Our generation by E Royston Pike, is there a way you could scan the foreward and send it to me? It would be much appreciated! 128.179.138.178 (talk) 08:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I don't know where my copy of it is at present. Some scans are at Commons:Category:Scans from 'Our Generation', 1938, but that's all I have. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:49, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol May 2025 Backlog drive

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Notice

The article Timing belt (disambiguation) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

unneeded 2 link dab

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Ivey (talk - contribs) 20:02, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification on Wikipedia:NOPRIMARY applying here - I updated the page to reflect that Ivey (talk - contribs) 20:36, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No source is needed for something that can be immediately experienced. Did you test it? I'd bet 10 to 1 you didn't. The functioning, if you test it, together with the various parts of the incoming stream is that of a NACA duct, vortexes and all. It's important for those needing A/C in their cars who don't have it. A NACA duct doesn't have to be symmetrical to operate. Look at the one on the rear hip of the F-40. OveGjerlow (talk) 17:04, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, that's irrelevant. This is an article about NACA ducts, and the specific mode of operation that they have. It's not an article on how to get fresh air into your car. A NACA duct operates in a specific manner, that of entraining the low-energy stagnant surface layer and encouraging that to enter a vent, down the shallow ramp. If it doesn't work that way, it's not a NACA duct. 'Opening the window' in a car is not the same thing at all.
Secondly, see WP:RS. This does not fall under WP:BLUESKY, it would be WP:OR at best. But mainly, it's still irrelevant.
Thirdly, what's your connection to Tertius51 (talk · contribs)? You seem oddly keen to get their exact text and their image included in this article. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:16, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A NACA outer shape duct, without ramp, with narrow front leading into a wide rear:

1. Generates streamwise vortices at the narrow sidewalls, especially if the edges are sharp or slightly angled.

2. These vortices entrain slower-moving boundary layer air, pulling in higher-energy flow from outside the boundary.

3. The resulting flow reduces flow separation and increases air ingestion efficiency for the widened aft section.

This is similar in concept to the swept sidewalls and ramp-induced vortices in a traditional NACA duct, but, necessarily, less efficient.

Try it and get back to me about Bluesky. OveGjerlow (talk) 18:46, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nice WP:OR there. Get back to us when you have WP:RS. That's how we work here. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:25, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still haven't tried it, have you? LOL. OK, look at the effect on overall flow, aft of a small boundary layer diverting slot (Fig. 10.). https://www.mdpi.com/2226-4310/11/1/42 There are many papers out there like this, but try it in your or a friend's car and get back to me about Bluesky. OveGjerlow (talk) 19:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • "a submerged inlet, which uses a long inclined plate"
inclined. Not a static port. A NACA duct, not an open window. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:40, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, here are references that support the utility of using a leading-edge slot or boundary layer bleed in lieu of a traditional ramp to improve the efficiency of downstream intakes:
  • Berrier, Bobby L., and Richard W. Jeske. Effects of Boundary Layer Bleed on the Flow Characteristics of a Supersonic Mixed-Compression Inlet. NASA Technical Memorandum 87621, 1986.
(NASA study demonstrating that boundary layer bleed ahead of the primary intake significantly improves pressure recovery and reduces distortion at the inlet face in supersonic applications.)
  • Gruber, Mark R., et al. Advanced Concepts for Boundary Layer Ingestion in Inlets. NASA/CR—2003-212670, 2003.
(Discusses passive and active boundary layer control techniques, including bleed slots, and their use to mitigate adverse inlet effects without ramps.)
  • Papamoschou, Dimitri. “Aero-Propulsive Benefits of Boundary Layer Ingestion.” Journal of Propulsion and Power, vol. 28, no. 5, 2012, pp. 865–874.
(Examines boundary layer ingestion techniques, including leading bleed slots, to optimize intake performance by selectively diverting low-momentum air.)
  • Kuethe, Arnold M., and Chuen-Yen Chow. Foundations of Aerodynamics: Bases of Aerodynamic Design. 5th ed., Wiley, 1998.
(Contains principles of boundary layer behavior and inlet design, including descriptions of how diverter slots and ramps affect inlet efficiency.)
  • Seiner, John M., and Bo J. Andersson. Advancements in Diverterless Supersonic Inlet (DSI) Design. AIAA 2001-3910, 2001.
(Shows how diverterless intakes can be optimized using shaping and passive bleed features without a ramp, relying on surface flow manipulation to control boundary layer ingestion.)
Still haven't tried it, have you? (So easy to see.) OveGjerlow (talk) 20:23, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Which of those discusses how car windows are NACA ducts? Andy Dingley (talk) 20:29, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You're missing the point: The mere shape of a NACA duct, ignoring ramp, suffices to inlet air smoothly. The leading edge incorporates a boundary layer bleed slot, and that's what matters. If the air is to be directed on some path through the vehicle, then a ramp is needed to keep it contained and into a tube for that purpose. If merely to let in air smoothly, without buffeting, that needs only a slot of sufficient size, preceded by a boundary layer bleed slot. OveGjerlow (talk) 19:46, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]