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New Page Triage engagement strategy released[edit]
Hey guys!
I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox - okeyeswikimedia.org.
It's awesome to finally get to start work on this! :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 02:08, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Carlingford Lough[edit]
Hi Bjmullan. Received your message on my talk page. I found some policies that seem to apply to this article and I posted a comment with the policies on the article's talk page. Thanks.Coaster92 (talk) 05:03, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Seriously what is wrong with you? I've obviously added "o" to the text by accident. Please stop identifying my edits as vandalism. Wise up.Hackneyhound (talk) 22:19, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
It was just an accident. The 'o' button was stuck. It's obviously not a sinister edit. Not like I've added a swear word. Please don't mark an innocent mistake with vandalism. I'm not as bad as you think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hackneyhound (talk • contribs) 22:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- As I've already said I do not think you are bad in any way. Once I thought as a mistake, twice I was worried. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Bjmullan (talk) 22:50, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- you also removed my last comment. I'll assume that was a mistake aswell so could you reinstate it? ThanksHackneyhound (talk) 22:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- I've no idea why that keeps happening. Netbooks!!! Can you reinstate my comment.?Hackneyhound (talk) 11:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Bjmullan, you need to look at the edits first, before reverting them. Assume good faith as I think you have missed the edit I made to the discussion.Hackneyhound (talk) 12:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hackneyhound, Bjmullan apologized--consider this over. I'm about to close the ANI thread: there is no need for any kind of administrative action here. The edit was mistakenly marked as vandalism, the editor has apologized, and I'm sure they'll be more careful next time. That's all there is to it. Happy days, Drmies (talk) 19:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
fightloungemike[edit]
Hi, got your message about nationalities. This is what the fighters state they are. If you go to their actual fighter profiles, it states the same as what is did too, i.e http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ali-Maclean-25354
thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fightloungemike (talk • contribs) 21:05, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- As I've said on Wikipedia we use the sporting bodies as the nationality. Eddie Irvine identifies himself as Irish but his article says he is British. This is the way that Wikipedia does it. Is there independent bodies for England, Northern Ireland, Scotland etc...? If so we should use these otherwise it's British, this not a personal website but an encyclopaedia. 22:18, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Derry / Londonderry[edit]
Hi BJ, Thanks for your message regarding my alterations to the Foyle and Londonderry College article, it was most helpful. I'm sure the Derry / Londonderry debate has raged on here for some time and I can, to a certain extent, the need to make a deliberation and distinction between county and city. I cannot accept the insistence that the city be referred to by its informal, colloquial name, regardless of the majority consensus. As you know the city is officially called Londonderry. I would proffer that the stance displayed by the UK City of Culture team is preferable if not ideal. All references to Derry / Londonderry should be merged and both names displayed simultaneously. Another alteration to the article was in the expression of the decision to “re-brand” the school. I think the text and choice of words comes from an article in the local newspapers which was inaccurate and frankly biased in tone. If you are in agreement, I would like to link to an article I penned for the Derry Journal in response to those already included. This may redress the balance slightly by at least acknowledging the stance of the PUL community in Derry. Kind regards, Oh, and Happy St. Patrick’s Day to your good self also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigfda (talk • contribs) 09:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Craigfda, to say that the debate has raged for some time is putting in lightly! I honestly believe that the current solution is the best compromise for all. I realised that you are new to Wikipedia and the rules and policies can either seems strange or you may not even know they exist. With regard to your own article can I suggest you read the following articles: Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources and Wikipedia:No original research. Bjmullan (talk) 11:04, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
SFL 2[edit]
Hello, I saw thay you previously had commented on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SFL 1 (2nd nomination). I wanted to draw your attention to the Articles for Discussion occuring currently. You may find it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SFL 2. Please feel free to comment. Hasteur (talk) 15:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Uhu.[edit]
Sorry, if you found my swearing offensive you could of asked for me to remove it, OK? You obviously have another underlying issue with me, I know a lot of my reasoning has been unpopular and you treat me as if I'm some Irish-hating nationalist, but whatever. --Τασουλα (talk) 21:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- I treated you like I would treat anyone who came to my talkpage swearing. Apology accepted. Bjmullan (talk) 21:59, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Mentioned at ANI[edit]
Please see WP:ANI#Slow edit war continues, where a user has complained about your edits of Carlingford Lough. EdJohnston (talk) 00:18, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Consensus[edit]
Is this what passes for consensus in your book [1]? Seriously? Do not post on my page if you refuse to be reasonable. Attempts have been made to keep everyone happy. The Carlingford page maybe stable for 10 months, but that is not a reason not to make a constructive edit. You have contributed nothing that I can see to this page other than constant reverts. Please try and suggest a NPOV alternative, or join the discussion? Your previous objections highlighted your pov, with the same old bullocks that NI is not a country. That is irrelevant. NI is still a location.Gravyring (talk) 22:04, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Socks and shite[edit]
Feels like I've not really done much on here this last few weeks other than fight the POV socks. At least the fact that they are stupid helps :) Bjmullan (talk) 22:34, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
- Anyone notice with all the POV socks banned that things are so much quieter. Happy Easter. Bjmullan (talk) 20:05, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Dispute resolution survey[edit]
Dispute Resolution – Survey Invite Hello Bjmullan. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Wikipedia, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released. Please click HERE to participate. You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated research page. Steven Zhang DR goes to Wikimania! 02:19, 6 April 2012 (UTC) |
Invitation to diacritics guideline discussion at WT:BLP | |
Hi, you were one of 100+ Users who has commented on a living person Requested Move featuring diacritics (e.g. the é in Beyoncé Knowles) in the last 30 days. Following closure of Talk:Stephane Huet RM, a tightening of BLP guidelines is proposed. Your contribution is invited to WT:BLP to discuss drafting a proposal for tightening BLP accuracy guidelines for names. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC) |
Feel free to duplicate this invite on the pages of others who have commented, for or against. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
HMS Black Swan[edit]
Your edit to the HMS Black Swan (L57) article was unhelpful - all the relevant sources state that the 6th Escort Group being based at Londonderry - and for the naval base, if anywhere, the "British" name is appropraite, but you have determined that in order to pander to the product of bigotry and nationalism that is WP:DERRY that all such sources must be ignored. As it is clear that I am forbidden to edit this article, as the ship has once operated from an Irish port, I will make no attempt to edit it again. Congratulations for driving an editor from an article.Nigel Ish (talk) 21:56, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think the only one with a bigoted view is you. Maybe you should consider not editing anywhere on Wkilpedia if that is your opinion. Bjmullan (talk) 22:04, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
WPF1 Newsletter (April)[edit]
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Article of the month – 2012 Bahrain Grand Prix The 2012 Bahrain Grand Prix (formally known as the 2012 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on 22 April 2012 at the Bahrain International Circuit in Sakhir, Bahrain. It was the first time Formula One returned to Bahrain after the 2011 race was cancelled due to ongoing anti-government protests. The race, the eighth running of the Bahrain Grand Prix, was contested over 57 laps and was the fourth round of the 2012 Formula One season. Sebastian Vettel started the race from pole position, leading into the first corner and for the majority of the race en route to victory. He was not without pressure though, as the Lotus of Kimi Räikkönen climbed the field, having started in eleventh place, and challenged for the lead before finishing second. Räikkönen's team-mate Romain Grosjean took the first podium finish of his career by finishing third, after having a strong start and quickly moving into second place by overtaking Lewis Hamilton and Mark Webber. Räikkönen passed Grosjean for second place roughly half-way through the race, being on a better tyre strategy. Hamilton started on the front row, but pitstop errors and degrading tyres left him eighth; his McLaren teammate, Jenson Button, retired with two laps remaining. As a consequence of the race, Sebastian Vettel took the lead in the Drivers' Championship from Lewis Hamilton. He became the fourth driver to top the standings from four races, and also the fourth race winner. Hamilton remained second, four points behind Vettel, whilst Webber jumped in front of Button to move into third with his fourth consecutive fourth place. Webber was just one point behind Hamilton, and Button was only five points behind him; Nico Rosberg was fifth. The Constructors' Championship was now lead by Red Bull, who also took the lead from McLaren (who were now nine points behind them). Lotus F1 moved up from sixth to third in the standings after their first podium. Ferrari fell to fourth whilst Mercedes remained fifth. The race's opponents described the decision to hold the race despite ongoing protests and violence as one of the most controversial Grands Prix in the sport's sixty-year history. (More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Lough Neagh[edit]
[2] requested semi, this should stop Hackneyhound/Gravyring/Homebirdni/Factocop and his expanse of IP's. (Also he is probably going to read this). Murry1975 (talk) 13:49, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- I noticed that the IP used by Factocop 147.114.44.209 (which he has used before) seems to be a vandalism/sock only account and could probably do with being blocked. Bjmullan (talk) 13:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think, and I am emphisising think, he has an ability to log into networks that are around him. there have been a few edits from that IP and ones from the same company [3] [4] [5] and others from ISP's. Either that or he works for them. Murry1975 (talk) 14:04, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- I see he is now using 147.114.44.208 as well again. Any more of this and I will start a SPI and get the IP's blocked. Bjmullan (talk) 21:25, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think a range block for the 147.144.44.NNN might be a better way, it would only effect that companies ability to edit Wiki (dont see it as a major problem) and leave him using proxy servers. Factocop really is a silly chap, trying to create inaccuraccies that he sees as "facts", changing articles in a way that makes them inconsistant with similar articles, just because they dont like it. Murry1975 (talk) 15:32, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- When I get the time I will reopen Factocop's SPI and at the very least get the 208/209 IP's blocked. But going by the latest IP edit at Foyle River he seems to have access to any number of IP accounts. Bjmullan (talk) 09:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- Are you honestly going to block the wiki usage of everyone who works at RBS just to satisfy your paranoia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.114.44.209 (talk) 16:22, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- When I get the time I will reopen Factocop's SPI and at the very least get the 208/209 IP's blocked. But going by the latest IP edit at Foyle River he seems to have access to any number of IP accounts. Bjmullan (talk) 09:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think a range block for the 147.144.44.NNN might be a better way, it would only effect that companies ability to edit Wiki (dont see it as a major problem) and leave him using proxy servers. Factocop really is a silly chap, trying to create inaccuraccies that he sees as "facts", changing articles in a way that makes them inconsistant with similar articles, just because they dont like it. Murry1975 (talk) 15:32, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- I see he is now using 147.114.44.208 as well again. Any more of this and I will start a SPI and get the IP's blocked. Bjmullan (talk) 21:25, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think, and I am emphisising think, he has an ability to log into networks that are around him. there have been a few edits from that IP and ones from the same company [3] [4] [5] and others from ISP's. Either that or he works for them. Murry1975 (talk) 14:04, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Are you going to get in trouble when it happens? That would not be nice. Murry1975 (talk) 16:26, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- Both 208 and 209 seem to be only used by you and some RBS vandals. These are likely to be blocked as part of your SPI. I'm sure you have a few more account sleeping somewhere. Bjmullan (talk) 16:30, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- I am not who you think I am. but I'm loving this paranoia. Feel like a spy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.114.44.209 (talk) 16:32, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Feel what ever why you want but once I have the time and a reliable connection I will raise the SPI. TTFN. Bjmullan (talk) 16:38, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- question for you: your first 2 edits were 2 years apart and your 3rd edit was to create a new wiki page. Thats rather ambitious for a 3rd edit don't you think? did you hold another account during your 2 year disappearance perhaps? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.114.44.209 (talk) 16:48, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Factocop you may find it difficult to create a simple article from a template but I found it rather easy, so to answer your question; NO. BTW another SPI to add to your collection has been filed. Bjmullan (talk) 13:13, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
So why the 2 year sabbatical? Not many could remember their password after 2 years. Interesting that Murry1975 is not harrassing you on this issue like he did with neetandtidy. Typical. Socks stick.together it seems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.199.195 (talk) 16:20, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Factocop you really are using lots of your IP's on this. Again you really must be stupid; Can't create a simple article from a template and now you can't remember passwords. Hope you can remember your way to RBS on Monday. Just be careful as the network manager might be getting contact by WP and he will know who you are and what you get up to all day. Have a nice weekend and come on Ulster! Bjmullan (talk) 16:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- you really are a disgusting individual! A person's private life outside of Wikipedia should remain private and the fact that you and Murry have broadcast a contributers place of work are out of order. You have obviously held another account and have been involved in socking. So why did you go on a 2 year sabbatical again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.199.195 (talk) 17:48, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Can I suggest that both of you tone things down a little and try to assume good faith about each other? As for the "no-one can remember their passwords after two years" comment, well that's why it is a good idea to register an email address for your account so you can get password reminders. Alternatively, Bjmullan if you are using the same password here as you've used everywhere else for some years I'd like to suggest that it might be time to change your passwords. ϢereSpielChequers 18:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Bye for now Factocop. I'm sure we will met again sometime in the future as you are so dumb that a four year old could catch you, but that's wbankers for you. Bjmullan (talk) 10:47, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Headline: Admits hounding at last[edit]
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Factocop&diff=493575160&oldid=493574875 Van Spiejk says he followed you there and also admits following my contribs. The hound. Murry1975 (talk) 23:01, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Murry, you really are a dope! I regularly follow a significant number of editors' contributions, as I'm sure they (including you) follow mine. Van Speijk (talk) 23:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry M, I'm maybe misreading the situation and this is just a bit of banter, "the hound" and all that. Van Speijk (talk) 23:07, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hound is what it says bud. BTW I am guessing Bjmullans page is on your watchlist and thats how you got here. Murry1975 (talk) 23:20, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- I don't run a watch list. Van Speijk (talk) 23:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hound is what it says bud. BTW I am guessing Bjmullans page is on your watchlist and thats how you got here. Murry1975 (talk) 23:20, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry M, I'm maybe misreading the situation and this is just a bit of banter, "the hound" and all that. Van Speijk (talk) 23:07, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Murry, you really are a dope! I regularly follow a significant number of editors' contributions, as I'm sure they (including you) follow mine. Van Speijk (talk) 23:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
British Isles[edit]
Up to your old tricks again I see. Things have been pleasantly quiet on the British Isles front recently, but it seems like you're intent on causing provocation when there's no need. A word of advice - leave it alone and concentrate on the stuff you're good at; motoring and technology etc. We can do without yet more agro on matters related to the British Isles. Van Speijk (talk) 14:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Unlike you Van Speijk I have not been given a warning for adding the British Isles without reference. I will give you some time to consider and self revert before I take further action. Bjmullan (talk) 14:51, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Take whatever action you like. You seem intent on causing problems when it comes to British Isles. As I said, things have been quiet recently so I don't see why you must start stirring it again with provocative edits. Van Speijk (talk) 14:57, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
British Isles Topic Probation Enforcement[edit]
On an examination of main-space edits from January 2012 to present (28 May 2012) a pattern of edit-warring involving this account and User:Van Speijk has disrupted a number of articles, spilled-over from one page to another and has at times included unsourced edits or other forms of original research, all centred around the use of the term 'British Isles' in various wikipedia articles. For more information on this please see here. The terms of the British Isles Topic Probation state that: The issue in this case is edit-warring over the term 'British Isles' in multiple articles, and thus under the probation you are being banned for an indefinite period from all edits and discussions relating to the use of the term 'British Isles' on wikipedia. Please note that this is a widely construed ban, so if in doubt about whether this covers a discussion or edit my advice is to leave it alone, and feel free to ask me if you need clarification. The formal wording of the ban is: Please follow the appeals procedure as outlined at WP:GS/BI if you wish to appeal this sanction but please note that this is not an infinite ban, & it is not permanent - it will be removed when you show that it is unnecessary, and I'm happy to review this ban in 6 months time.--Cailil talk 02:32, 28 May 2012 (UTC) |
Not one single Admin could be bothered to look at my appeal. Well Wikipedia has just lost another editor. Bye. Bjmullan (talk) 10:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Deletion review for Politics in the British Isles[edit]
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WPF1 Newsletter (May)[edit]
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Article of the month – 2012 Formula One season, current peer review The 2012 Formula One season is the 63rd FIA Formula One season. The season started in Australia on 18 March and will end in Brazil on 25 November. It is being contested over twenty races – the most races in a season in the sport's history – and will see the return of the United States Grand Prix, which will be held at the Circuit of the Americas, a purpose-built circuit in Austin, Texas. After being cancelled in 2011 due to civil protests, the Bahrain Grand Prix returned to the calendar. In addition to having the greatest number of races in a championship year, the 2012 season broke several records. Six current and former World Drivers' Champions — Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Räikkönen, Fernando Alonso and Michael Schumacher — started the season, breaking the record of five established in 1970. The 2012 season was also the first time that the first six championship races of a season were won by six different drivers. (More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season.
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Article of the month – List of Formula One circuits, currently listed for Peer Review
The first Grand Prix was held in 1950 at Silverstone; since then 68 circuits have hosted a Grand Prix. Circuits such as the Nürburgring have hosted Grands Prix using different configurations. The first race at the circuit used the 22 kilometres (14 mi) circuit, but concerns over safety meant that more recent Grands Prix have used a shorter, safer circuit. F1 circuits were predominately in Europe during the early years of the championship, as the sport has expanded so has the location of its circuits. New circuits have been used in Asia and America, the change has been a recent occurrence. Of the 20 circuits that will host a Grand Prix in 2012, nearly half were not on the calendar before 1999. The Autodromo Nazionale Monza has hosted the most Grands Prix; it has been used as the circuit for the Italian Grand Prix 61 times. The only season it did not host a race was in 1980, when the Italian Grand Prix was held at the Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari. The most recent circuit to have hosted a Grand Prix was the Buddh International Circuit, which hosted the Indian Grand Prix in 2011. The Circuit of the Americas is set to become the latest different circuit to host a Grand Prix; when the United States Grand Prix is staged there in 2012, at Austin, Texas. The Pescara Circuit is the longest circuit to have hosted a Grand Prix. The 25.800 km (16.031 mi) long circuit normally held the Coppa Acerbo race, it hosted one World Championship race, the 1957 Pescara Grand Prix. As some circuits have hosted Grands Prix using different configurations, the most recent configuration used is listed in the table below. (More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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