User talk:Sergecross73

Vandalism part 36

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Serge's 36th iteration of his own personal WP:AIV and WP:RFPP. Feel free to report anything you feel may need admin intervention. Sergecross73 msg me 16:50, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am concerned about an editor.

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ExoNeos has been indeffed, so this is probably the end of this rather bizarre discussion. Sergecross73 msg me 20:09, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

My intuition tells me that in January next year that a particular editor is going to come back and try to make a particular video game a featured article through unorthodox means to ensure that it would be featured on June 24th as the tenth anniversary of international release. I am very concerned about that and wish to mitigate this by beating them to the punch to prevent further potential disruption. This is why I am contacting you about this, because I am concerned about the future. I understand that this whole chain of events is a sensitive topic for you and them and I wish them help regarding this. This is why I wanted to know more about FAs, GAs and potential paths expediting their ascendancy, because I am concerned about this potential disruption. I knew about this situation due to searching up the backlog of requests as well as searching WP:DISCORD.

(P.S: I don't think that telling them that its no longer an option for them would abate such potential interloping, it might intensify.) ExoNeos (talk) 16:54, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit difficult to answer too definitively without knowing the editor, article, or what exactly the editor intends on doing. If this is in regards to your proposal to speed up the WP:FA process, we probably shouldn't be attempting to rewrite the entire process for one singular situation. Keep in mind it may very well take care of itself without any action too; I've seen people "game the system" with the WP:GA process, but the WP:FA process requires so many steps and different participants that its usually pretty difficult to fake things through that process. Sergecross73 msg me 17:59, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It may be that TMS editor though. ExoNeos (talk) 18:04, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what that means. Sergecross73 msg me 18:10, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Does Tokyo Mirage Sessions jog your mind a bit? ExoNeos (talk) 18:17, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I don't understand why you're choosing to be so vague and offer crucial information only when asked. I only vaguely know who you're talking about, but Serge may not even remember this editor, as that occurred months or perhaps even at least a year ago. Why not just state the article, editor, and so on from the get-go? ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:22, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am trying to WP:DENY recognition. ExoNeos (talk) 18:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But if you're denying recognition to the point that no one can understand who or what you're talking about, what's the point? ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:29, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
" — 9/2/24, 1:23 PM
A user who is banned from this Discord and was using other accounts to get round a Wikipedia block wanted Tokyo Mirage Sessions as an FA...right now, this instant. Twice." - ProtoDrake
This is all the context needed. ExoNeos (talk) 18:32, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) So you, a brand new account, are pushing to create a Featured Article to deny recoginition to a sockmaster who's repeated stated purpose was to get that same article to FA status?-- Ponyobons mots 18:40, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I may be brand new here, but I have observed Wikipedia for a long time. ExoNeos (talk) 18:54, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this is an editor who's obsessed with Tokyo Mirage Sessions to the point they have harassed other users to get the article to FA. If they show up again, we block them again. We shouldn't rush getting the article to FA, otherwise we're simply giving in to problematic editors, which is the opposite of WP:DENY. ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:37, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, this makes sense. But there is plenty of months to get it to FA, so they can finally stop talking about it. ExoNeos (talk) 18:51, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no deadline, much less for a sockmaster's potential return. We shouldn't convince or pressure any other editor(s) to get this article to FA-status. Editors will work on articles they like. If someone comes along and wants to work on this article and get it to FA status, then more power to them. ThomasO1989 (talk) 19:03, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, if we're just trying to DENY and deal with someone abusing multiple accounts, I think the better way would simply be to have people report it to me and/or a check user if they come across anyone that appears to be the TMS editor returning. I can block or protect the page as needed. Improving the same article on these grounds sounds closer to WP:PROXYING than DENYing. Sergecross73 msg me 19:23, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Conclusion on 80 Level on VG Sources

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Hi, I'm not sure whether to mark the recently archived discussion as inconclusive or if it's enough to mark 80 Level as unreliable on VG Sources. Could you assess? Daisy Blue (talk) 21:30, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'll look at it tomorrow. Sergecross73 msg me 04:20, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Daisy Blue - Reviewing it, it is a bit of a tricky one. There definitely wasn't any support for being reliable. You got 2 responses, both editors gave more "soft unreliable" type stances. You seemed to be skeptical as well. What do you think? If you're pushing for unreliable, you could try adding it to the list. If someone contests it, you could always open it back up. If you're uncertain how you feel, you could probably rightfully add it to inconclusive, or ignore it entirely, if you wanted to. Sergecross73 msg me 18:10, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It not being on the list is not a big deal, given that the archives are searchable and can be referenced regardless. It's just that it's already on the list as inconclusive, added by me before that discussion was concluded, based on the preceding attempt to discuss it. My view hasn't changed in that it looks unreliable if it weren't for the interviews with people who are notable, but I don't know if a source being trusted with this makes it situational. It probably doesn't, given that unknown bloggers sometimes manage to interview high-profile individuals as well. Daisy Blue (talk) 21:00, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think I saw someone else add the new conversation to inconclusive, so maybe that's where it should stay for now. For what its worth, sometimes using unreliable sources for interviews can still be allowed, because its really more of a WP:PRIMARY account - direct quotes from a person - rather than the source itself. I personally don't like doing it, but some do. But that's probably a way forward. As is, you'd probably be fine with using the website sparingly, on uncontroversial things, or interviews inline with PRIMARY, but I wouldn't try to use it as a major part of an article, in a WP:GA/WP:FA, or as part of an argument to save an article at AFD or something. I mean, you'd probably be free to try, but I think you'd get pushback and/or not be very persuasive. Sergecross73 msg me 16:12, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sock of blocked user

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Happy to report this to SPI if required, but I was hoping you might be able to nip this one quickly in the bud. You blocked user Carens28 a few days ago and they've returned with the same edits and similar edit summaries on an IP 73.80.188.123 [12] [13]. Barry Wom (talk) 16:54, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No need, that's definitely them. Blocked. Let me know if you see any others. Sergecross73 msg me 16:59, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2025).

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  • Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, G15, has been enacted. It applies to pages generated by a large language model (LLM) without human review.
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